The Liberal - Conservative difference explained

**plantsman** · March 5th, 2007, 11:01 PM

I think he may be differentiating Law (capitol L, Biblical law), and law, as in man's law. Just my opinion.

**imported_ut1** · March 5th, 2007, 11:35 PM

God sees all, knows all, and allows what He will. Again, God established capital punishment, not man. He also had special laws that dealt with harm brought upon a pregnant woman and/or her unborn child. When God said "Thou shalt not kill", it was understood that to defend themselves from the enemy and from wrongdoers in their midst, killing was necessary. They also understood that it meant they could not murder someone or their life would be forfeit.
There is a difference between the two acts, and the difference was clarified long before the Supreme Court stuck its nose in it.

**R0cketer** · March 6th, 2007, 02:01 PM

He also had special laws that dealt with harm brought upon a pregnant woman and/or her unborn child

What special laws? Please clarify as I must have missed that in reading.

And isn't making a pregnant woman give birth to a baby generated by rape, or a baby that could and will likely kill her, doing harm to her? You say there is special laws to deal with that, but yet you're trying to force it to be allowed.

March 6th, 2007, 03:18 PM

Preach it!!!!!!

**imported_ut1** · March 6th, 2007, 09:41 PM

Read Exodus 21.

"Life for life"

**R0cketer** · March 6th, 2007, 10:53 PM

Ok, so now apparently slavery is ok? I mean if you're quoting Exodus as your defense, then I guess we should all go out an buy us some Hebrew slaves? Correct? Hope you never cussed a parent, I mean we could kill you.

Of course the verse says

If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

So...the woman's husband has the right to determine? So now women have no right, but if a husband says oh go ahead, its ok??

C'mon.

**imported_ut1** · March 7th, 2007, 07:15 AM

You miss the whole point of it all. God's laws were meant to protect us, and that included the unborn.

People like to argue that that was "olden" times and those ideas and precepts don't apply to us now. We're of a modern age and don't need something so archaic to govern our behavior. If God were to hand a new set of laws to you now to cover today's society, just what laws do you think He would set down for us to live by?

**R0cketer** · March 7th, 2007, 02:58 PM

Afraid I don't miss the whole point.

I'll repeat, I don't favor abortion. I don't think that we should dictate what a mother does with her own body. If you have cancer, and you want to die, I don't think we should force you to be cured. People have the right to control their own body.

Biblically, I agree, its wrong. However, there is many things wrong. I think if you read the Bible, you could find just as much saying how drinking is wrong, are you going off on drinking? Wait marking your body with tattoos is wrong, going off on that? We have killed innocent people with the death penalty, yes I know its rare, but still, we're doing it, maybe we should stop that.

More power to you to live how you deem it. As long as what you deem doesn't affect or harm others. How about letting others decide what is right for them. If your child gets raped and you don't want them to abort it, hey that's your right. Shouldn't other people have that right? Guarantee you that if I have a daughter and she gets raped, and it traumatizes her, and she doesn't want that baby, and aborts it, you'll be ok. Guess what, I think God would forgive her for that. Just as I think if you're on a jury, and you convict someone to death, and here a month later, evidence comes out that proves that person was innocent, you'll be forgiven for putting someone to death.

**imported_ut1** · March 7th, 2007, 06:34 PM

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How about letting others decide what is right for them.

[/ QUOTE ] If you do that, you take all law, both God's and man's (which is based on God's), out of the equation. Sure, God gives us the right of choice, but we all too often choose the wrong way. That's the whole point of having laws to begin with.